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This site is dedicated to an open forum for the deCrypt0graphic streaming project, for the Music for Peace Project 2005.
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Upcoming events
Rehearsals:
Stony Brook, thursday, 7 apr, 8:00pm-? EST, Music Dept or the Wang Center Lecture Hall 2 SBU
Stony Brook, Arizona, and Thailand, sunday, 10 apr, 11:00am-6:00pm EST, Music Dept or the Wang Center Lecture Hall 2 SBU
Performance:
Stony Brook, Arizona, and Thailand, sunday, 10 apr, 6:00pm-7:30pm EST, Wang Center Lecture Hall 2 SBU
Mission statement for the deCrypt0graphic streaming project
To promote peace and foster cultural connections via interactive creativity within a collaborative online environment, encouraging the transcendence of boundaries that are geographic, socio-econonomic, and disciplinary through digital and artistic initiatives.
Tech stuff
We will need to bring our own PA. Nothing in place. There is however a great projector in place that will project onto a white wall behind us. We have plenty of power. Plenty of ethernet and good control over lights. HVAC is bad but hey ... its a lecture hall, who wants to hear what people say. - B
Josephine Dorado, team coordinator/streaming facilitator
Andy, live mix of turntables and violin on g4
Aaron, turntables
Raed, ambient - using live feed
Ben Robison, violin with electronics
Neely, live video
Rob, computer guru/support
Tiffany Lawrence, performer
Steve Tinsky, VJ
John Hopkins/neoscenes, VJ/audio
Each of us will have our own computer + two G5's
Questions/issues
THEME/ONLINE LOG
I'm in lecture hall 2 in the wang center where we'll be streaming from. there is seemingly no internet security here. FAB! If anyone is online, I can stream right now.
how about 'cryptographic'
something about breaking down secrets, breaking codes - Bletchley Park - code break, oh how about Bletchley Park 05
we are providing the new paradigm for interaction moving from an age of information and coding to an age of the imagination where "hard and fast" choices do not need to be made because "hard" will give way to supple. (yes this will be in my speech for the opening)
I will research some basic morse codes beyond SOS to start us off with a rhythmic motive. I would love the project to move from deeply "coded" to completely transparent over our 60 min . . .
love the 'cobra' idea. would love to do a whole piece on gaming (Go and Das Glasperlenspiel)
Fantastic about Thailand!
-B
5march05
Hi, all! welcome back, Ben. I just got off the phone w you so we'll chat later via iChat and test some streams. I have been talking w my colleague, Steve, from Chiang Mai, Thailand and we will be testing his video streams this morning.
theme: I like the idea of something morse-code based...subverting morse code for the creative process.
That's funny that you mention that, because what I've been thinking about is codifying some kind of visual signal, similar to how I've seen Nathan Fuhr use color/symbols to direct John Zorn's "Cobra"
sort of a directed improvisation based on codified visual symbols.
so I think Morse is a great place to start. we could expand on bursts of flashing lights to include other colors/patterns, that symbolize a change in tone or emotive state or whatever.
So, Neely, in answer to your question, I think it will basically be a structured improv based on interpretations of these codified symbols...
I think what we'll have when we get done with it, too, is a "language" or "alphabet" that can be used to communicate within an improv framework, across different disciplines.
This is tasty. :-)
title - decryptograph is cool... how about decryptify (the process rather than the machine)
I'll come up with some color/symbol/patterns and make some quicktime movs so we can use them in the rehearsal.
great!
see you all soon,
~Jos
4/4//05
o.k. I'm back from the land of sumi-e and music and ready to talk streaming. Robert and I will be meeting at the Wang Center in front of Jasmine at 3:40 PM tomorrow. Anyone who can make it please come. We will be registering computers and testing the network. I will contact the network admin and Sunita tomorrow to confirm necessary info. It has been recomended that we use I-Chat incoming and Broadcaster outgoing as we will get better streaming that way (this comes from Paul St. Denis - tech guru here at SB).
Theme - how about something based on morse code - find a few simple codes from various contexts. Can use them to add rhythmic interest, create structure, can also use to deal with gaps in the streams. morse was there at the beginning of global communication . . . we could look at the breaking of codes or the idea of internet art as defying secrecy . . .
Title - morse effect or coding or decryptograph
Neely, Perhaps at our first rehearsal we can capture some flashing lights and different patterns of black and white using the painting easel and the mixer. We could work back and forth from that to 1950's McCarthy stuff - you should check out archive.org. They have a ton of footage. I know Aaron has a bunch of great records and I have a buch of old political speachs from McArthur - King - etc.
Andy and I have been tending toward "process" pieces. We sort of map out the various processes we will use then work through them in the improv. We could add to this a simple chart of who plays with who over the course of an hour to provide some coherence.
Mostly I think we should just jam as long as we can hold out to get some feel for what we've got. Coffee, snacks, beer . . . whatever will keep us going.
- o.k. more later.
-B
04/03/05 I think beyond rehearsals we need to talk to each other about the name, the context, the concept(!!?), and technical cruising between each other. I'd like to know what kind of images I will start with in order to manipulate video that change with the help and effect of the music...I think that showing the audience or the performers have been and are being done since the birth of multi-media. I hate going to the city and seeing the same thing done under the name of interactivity and multimedia over and over. Does our group have a name? Ok maybe I'm throwing too many things out there...Sorry Somebody say or write something... neely
31march05 hi - ok well I can send out midi too (I'm used to sending out osc which is why it's the first thing that pops to my mind). so if you want to work with stuff generated that way, then that is possible. how do you usually/prefer to work? what do you usually play/use? I'm thinking of it in terms of an improvisation that's built around the interaction between the images, sound, live performance. I prefer to not restrict it to a "theme" but rather leave it open for more possibility for play, within a structured improv framework (does that answer your question of context?). ~Jos
31march05 i unfortunately dont use max/msp, you may want to ask andy, he has a mac and he would be running patches... i def can handle a midi signal, i might vvvv wich is a video synthesis tool but has some audio functions and does accept OSC... one last thing, the technical review mentions that im doing Ambient sounds, im wonder what the context of these sounds is... thank you -raed
31march05
hi, raed! right - I think the addition of the word 'peace' into the name is a good thing.
about the incoming stream:
- it will be video only
- there are a few ways that we can deal with it.
1) we can feed the stream into the machine that will be doing the video mixing (I am assuming this might be Neely's machine?)
2) for something more complicated but perhaps more interesting, we can feed the stream into my machine, which has softVNS, which does video motion-tracking/analysis...then I can send it thru a patch that analyses the image and turns it to MIDI, which can be sent across a network (via OSC) to someone that has Max/MSP (you?), which can then be used to synthesize some generative sounds.
3) we can do both.
if option #2 is interesting for you, there is also the possibility of using the live performer (tiffany) -- analyzing her movements in softVNS and using that to synthesize some sounds (or whatever) as well.
the delay of the incoming stream very much depends on the server activity and other technical resources in the moment. It can really vary, from 8 seconds up towards 20 sometimes.
hope I've made some things clearer! c u soon, ~Jos
hi, im raed, the ambient + live feed person..
first , i thought of names for the project, some what cheesy... oops
- stream peace
- peace fuse...
and i have general questions about the incoming feed..
- what is it?
- how much propagation delay are we dealing with?
- what are we expected to do with it?
- whats is the ambient music/sounds for? (im assuming they are going along with something..)
thats all for now.. see you soon
wiki is great! sorry for posting the same info in 2 places :)
28march05
1) name?
Right now the name for this piece is the "streaming project." I'm feeling like we need to name it something that conveys more. What does everybody think? Suggestions for a name? How about...here comes a brainstorm:
Melt (as in boundaries melting)
Fuzz (as in fuzzy boundaries)
Fuse
...
not sure why only monosyllabic names are popping into my head at this moment...
~Jos
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m4p info
The Music for Peace Project is a global effort to fill the world with music as a call for peace. By coordinating a vast number of concerts worldwide between April 8-10, 2005, The Music for Peace Project will bring popular and media attention to international peace efforts while building a global community of active, socially conscious artists.
Dedicated to cultivating peace as both a means and an end, The Music for Peace Project creates a global celebration of peace and provides a voice for the vibrant community that believes in peaceful solutions for the future.
Introductions
- Josephine*
Hi, I'll post the first introduction. I'm Josephine. I like to dance and make noise and pictures and it's especially cool when I can make them with electricity and numbers, and then send them over the ether. I met Ben while at my friend/former roommate from Amsterdam - Sara's DMA recital. That's how I got linked up with this project. :-) Some samples of previous multimedia streaming performances:
I look forward to working w everybody!
